oops, upset randakk..........

[Randakk]

dan filipi » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm[/url]":28fj6nzn]
I don't see any reason for this thread to be locked.....and certainly not because NGW locked the same thread over there.

Everybody has their own opinions, some may be perceived in a harsh or hostile way but the fact remains....there are more than one way to get the job done and everyone is entitled to voice their way.

Dan: I agree 100%. Also, there is no need that I can see that threads like this should ever be "locked." So long as people attack the facts and not the people - it makes for great entertainment!

 

[Omega Man]

Randakk » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:45 pm[/url]":snlnlmkt]

dan filipi » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm[/url]":snlnlmkt]
I don't see any reason for this thread to be locked.....and certainly not because NGW locked the same thread over there.

Everybody has their own opinions, some may be perceived in a harsh or hostile way but the fact remains....there are more than one way to get the job done and everyone is entitled to voice their way.

Dan: I agree 100%. Also, there is no need that I can see that threads like this should ever be "locked." So long as people attack the facts and not the people - it makes for great entertainment!

Here here! :salute:

 

[joedrum]

:BigGrin: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: gee and I cant be blamed....first post in this thread ...some people just think to much of themselves ...they get nothing from me ....I say don't come here like you got clout over members here ...this is members first forum

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

That was very helpful, I cannot see the need to get defensive over that. You did not mention anyone by name. We learn through criticism, fighting it is counterproductive.

 

[Old Fogey]

Randakk » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:45 pm[/url]":3ntthbcl]

dan filipi » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm[/url]":3ntthbcl]
I don't see any reason for this thread to be locked.....and certainly not because NGW locked the same thread over there.

Everybody has their own opinions, some may be perceived in a harsh or hostile way but the fact remains....there are more than one way to get the job done and everyone is entitled to voice their way.

Dan: I agree 100%. Also, there is no need that I can see that threads like this should ever be "locked." So long as people attack the facts and not the people - it makes for great entertainment!

Randall, as the one being attacked, somewhat obliquely maybe, you are magnanimous to the Nth degree!

Whiskerfish, rightly in my opinion, locks down threads before they degenerate into the same snidey comments that this thread did.

 

[aussiegold]

Old Fogey » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:05 pm[/url]":ab27h44l]

Randakk » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:45 pm[/url]":ab27h44l]

dan filipi » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm[/url]":ab27h44l]
I don't see any reason for this thread to be locked.....and certainly not because NGW locked the same thread over there.

Everybody has their own opinions, some may be perceived in a harsh or hostile way but the fact remains....there are more than one way to get the job done and everyone is entitled to voice their way.

Dan: I agree 100%. Also, there is no need that I can see that threads like this should ever be "locked." So long as people attack the facts and not the people - it makes for great entertainment!

Randall, as the one being attacked, somewhat obliquely maybe, you are magnanimous to the Nth degree!

Whiskerfish, rightly in my opinion, locks down threads before they degenerate into the same snidey comments that this thread did.

yup, and after all the bruised egos have settled down and the loyal acolytes who jump up and down in indignation, have sat back down and apologies have been made ( and accepted ) etc etc etc, THE FACTS STILL REMAIN.
it is unnecessary and a silly practice, to stick bits of plastic in your rotor, to put it on the engine.
ps
i am still unable to find any evidence of a special tool ( as mentioned by randakk ) used to fit a rotor. i am still looking tho. :BigGrin:

 

[Old Fogey]

There are two special tools noted in my 75 workshop manual;
1)Rotor holding tool 07925-371-0100
2) Rotor puller tool 07934-371-0200

There is no mention in here of an assembly tool, nor of how to fit the rotor back on.

My very early Haynes manual makes no mention of these but states "............if the rotor is rotated it will slide into place with ease. "

I did not consult the Clymer manual which was long ago re-shelved to sit along with the rest of my Fiction, and Joke, books.

It all begs the question: if not for assembly, what are those 'straw' holes for ? If for oiling, that was pure wishful thinking on Honda's part as next to no oil gets up there to the outside of the rotor.
I wonder if they actually were used in assembly, as in a sub-assembly with all the bits installed and delivered in quantity to the engine assembly line. I can't envisage the engine guys, on a moving line, fiddling about with the small springs, rollers and guide pins. They would have been much more likely to just want to pick up an assembly and slap it on. As a ex-production manager, that is the way I would have gone with it.
In which case there may well have been an assembly tool not available to the general public.

 

[dan filipi]

And not all of them have the holes either so its anyone's guess what they were for in those that do.

I have put a few on and never used anything to hold them in place but I have had a roller and spring come out then having to try again.
A production line holder of some sort does make sense.

 

[Ansimp]

May of been for a production tool, or packing retainer for shipping, even could be oil relief or injection holes. I am sure that someone knows the actual reason for the holes but it's not me :yes:

 

[aussiegold]

Old Fogey » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:54 pm[/url]":3japosd9]
There are two special tools noted in my 75 workshop manual;
1)Rotor holding tool 07925-371-0100
2) Rotor puller tool 07934-371-0200

There is no mention in here of an assembly tool, nor of how to fit the rotor back on.

My very early Haynes manual makes no mention of these but states "............if the rotor is rotated it will slide into place with ease. "

I did not consult the Clymer manual which was long ago re-shelved to sit along with the rest of my Fiction, and Joke, books.

It all begs the question: if not for assembly, what are those 'straw' holes for ? If for oiling, that was pure wishful thinking on Honda's part as next to no oil gets up there to the outside of the rotor.
I wonder if they actually were used in assembly, as in a sub-assembly with all the bits installed and delivered in quantity to the engine assembly line. I can't envisage the engine guys, on a moving line, fiddling about with the small springs, rollers and guide pins. They would have been much more likely to just want to pick up an assembly and slap it on. As a ex-production manager, that is the way I would have gone with it.
In which case there may well have been an assembly tool not available to the general public.

yes , i agree. and if someone can produce evidence of this tool i would be extremely grateful. people i have spoken to look at me strangely when quizzed about this tool. k:
tell you what.... if any body can show me this tool and how it is operated , i will recant any statements i have made regarding this issue. i will publically withdraw any statement i have made re inserting plastic things in the rotor.
show me the tool and how it works. please.
if you cannot, then i ask this. watch the two videos posted in this thread. watch how the drive shaft slips into the rotor. with ease.
also note, the mangled piece of plastic that mr randikk holds up when the last straw is withdrawn and ask your self. which method is correct . ? i deal in facts not hearsay.
ps, ..... if i can convince just one person not to stick plastic straws into this part, i will be happy. this website was created with the notion in mind that only factual material be presented to the membership. show me where i am wrong and i will apologize. 20.000 plus views on randakks video. all 20,000 gone away with an excellent solution to a problem that dont exist.

GETTIN MAD NOW,,,,,,,,,, :beg: :beg: :beg:

 

[dan filipi]

What's really odd is why use a splined washer when the washer drops down into a non-splined groove once installed.
I think the same is true on the clutch.

 

[Ansimp]

dan filipi » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:55 am[/url]":30auexm3]
What's really odd is why use a splined washer when the washer drops down into a non-splined groove once installed.
I think the same is true on the clutch.

Isn't the splined area bigger od than the running area of the washer?

 

[joedrum]

lol what a funny thread to read ...problem is really is not randakks but the groupies that think its slander pointed at him ...and they all run to the defense of randakk...randakk needs no help to defend himself ....just like the rest of us ....randkks is good info for oldwings ...is it slanted yes ....is it perfect no ....is classicgoldwing pefect no ...is single carb info perfectno ....lots of no in the lets get it right field .....im not perfect with my info either ...sheesh i can fool myself at times trying hard not to ....assuegold videos are some of the best ive ever seen ...dose he charge for them no ...dose he deserve be call a know it all primodona for providing that ...in no way ...do people have the right to do so yes .....great entertainment as randakks said i had fun reading the thread LOL

 

[Randakk]

This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

 

[Omega Man]

Randakk » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:22 pm[/url]":10jqitg0]
This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

:smilie_happy: Oh my, that will fix em! :doh:

 

[joedrum]

you think nobody listens to your blab ...lol....i think i come in as number one on the chart ...i speak caveman....

 

[mcgovern61]

Randakk » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:22 pm[/url]":3nid4tj6]
This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

Actually, that is a great pic and simple to understand! :yes:

 

[Ansimp]

Randakk » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:22 am[/url]":1nyusxfx]
This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

:smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy:
And I am assuming no "hot air" holding the valve in place :salute:

 

[dan filipi]

mcgovern61 » 29 minutes ago[/url]":3apkpvc8]

Randakk » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:22 pm[/url]":3apkpvc8]
This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

Actually, that is a great pic and simple to understand! :yes:

Yep, I understand it perfectly.
Nice photo quality and lighting by the way.

 

[Steve83]

Randakk » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:22 pm[/url]":13m6wzz5]
This thread motivated me with a burst of creativity.

See:

https://www.randakksblog.com/valve-stem-seal-replacement/

Yup...it's obvious - once all the timing fluid is drained from the rear torque impeller, the turn signals should work fine. :BigGrin: