gl1100 rear brake master cyl options "those are rare hard to find parts"

[82a]

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I talked to a salvage guy today who said"those are rare,hard to find parts"
He then told me 350.00 exchange for a mster cyl, and 295.00 for an ignition switch.
Saw another Master c for 250.00 and it looked pretty rough.

I think i am going to have to "Frank" one in.
I really dislike the thought...

https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... lit=gl1800

viewtopic.php?f=98&t=3282&start=15

also read a thread where an 83 de-linked with a 81 M/C

prob an easy swap here
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/NT-Rear-Brake-Ma ... 6f&vxp=mtr

 

[brianinpa]

I would find a way to use a 1000 master cylinder before I paid that kind of money for one on my 81...

 

[dan filipi]

I think the salvage yard owners are looking to retire early.
I had a local one tell me $350 used unknown working or not.

That eBay one for $15 would be worth the risk for an 83 model replacement.

 

[slabghost]

those prices would get me adapting a master from something that much is sure.

 

[82a]

just adding relevant info from the ebay listing

Fitment: Honda
NSR250 All year
VFR400 88-92
RFV 400 All year
VTR250 All year
CB250 All year
CB400 All year
CB600 03-12
CB900 92 UP
CBR250 88-12
CBR400 84 UP
CBR600 03-12
CBR1000 04-12

 

[westgl]

Did you check Cyclepsycho?

Or another cheaper alternative, is people parting out a bike, as they are more willing to negotiate, than someone in the business.

I have gotten to know my local salvage guy, and negotiate with him.

I have gotten him to the point that he does not charge me the Ebay going price anymore, he now gives me discounts, I let him know that I would rather buy parts from him locally, but i need to get a really good price, or I will buy from someone else.

I negotiated subcontracts, for Big Business for years, that paper work would put you to sleep, better than any sleeping pill

 

[westgl]

Has anyone tried a GL12 Rear Brake Master on a GL11?

GL12 they are newer parts so maybe more used parts availability.

 

[82a]

westgl » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:24 am[/url]":3a6zhpij]
Has anyone tried a GL12 Rear Brake Master on a GL11?

GL12 they are newer parts so maybe more used parts availability.

all i`ve seen so far is talk and reasons it wouldn`t work, 3 issues are/were mounting points, splitter is built in and hookup to the brake pedal is diff

i was looking for an easy mod (exactly like this, something newer that could be substituted) when i stumbled on a post where someone already did it using a gl18 m/c
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... lit=gl1800
(above link from first post)

seeing as that has been done, there are then a ton of alternative options out there, one important note is the 83 gl11 rear m/c uses an external y splitter stock if going with linked brakes

 

[joedrum]

easter quite resourceful

 

[westgl]

Oh yes!!

I would much rather get a new GL1800 rear brake master especially since it has a slightly larger piston.

A larger piston, on a Master cyl. means you are pushing more fluid, this means more brake power.

Even just slightly lager means more power, it doesnt take much to make a good improvement.

Also rebuild kits are still available for the GL18.

So you would have a more powerful rear brake.

That is a great idea, That would be the way i would go

82a » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:41 am[/url]":1lfmml94]

westgl » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:24 am[/url]":1lfmml94]
Has anyone tried a GL12 Rear Brake Master on a GL11?

GL12 they are newer parts so maybe more used parts availability.

all i`ve seen so far is talk and reasons it wouldn`t work, 3 issues are/were mounting points, splitter is built in and hookup to the brake pedal is diff

i was looking for an easy mod (exactly like this, something newer that could be substituted) when i stumbled on a post where someone already did it using a gl18 m/c
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... lit=gl1800
(above link from first post)

seeing as that has been done, there are then a ton of alternative options out there, one important note is the 83 gl11 rear m/c uses an external y splitter stock if going with linked brakes

 

[westgl]

$120.00 for a much newer unit i think is the way to go.

Vs $250-$350.00 for a much older well worn part.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-GL-GL1800 ... 6e&vxp=mtr

 

[82a]

these go for 15 bucks brand new, should also work modding it like the gl18 m\c

 

[Ansimp]

Nice :good:

 

[backyardtrouble]

Great InFo...even though i've got an extra 83 master cylinder that works in my storage, This info can be a great backup for someone needing a quick fix. It may be me... :builder: .

 

[westgl]

How can they sell that for only $15 bucks???? that is like giving it away, how could they make any money?

Count me In

82a » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:12 pm[/url]":1ryx9man]
these go for 15 bucks brand new, should also work modding it like the gl18 m\c

 

[westgl]

I rebuilt my Rear Brake master about three years ago.

I must be getting a Slow leak down.

You should replace all brake fluid anyway every two years.

I noticed this year my foot brake went all the way down to the frame.

I did a total brake fluid replacement. That fix me right up.

Brakes are excellent again.

I may have to keep a closer watch on the leak down to see when this starts to happen.

What problems is everyone else experiencing?

 

[westgl]

I see how they sell them so cheap.

It is Chinese.

I dont buy any safety equipment from china!!

I would rather buy used GL1800, Nissin brake master at least it is Japanese, I know I can trust the quality

 

[dan filipi]

A big problem only getting worse is the aluminum around the spring clip is corroding away.
This spring clip acts as a pedal up stop.
Bad design because if that spring clip pops out, so does the piston and you loose your rear brakes.

The next time I have any rear brake problems, I'm modding in something new as a replacement, though for safety I really should do this before there's a problem.

 

[mcgovern61]

westgl » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:22 am[/url]":31fodl0m]
I dont buy any safety equipment from china!!

Agreed! Currently, there are no consistently enforced standards for materials in China. It is a real big issue in the maritime sector.

 

[82a]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/NT-Rear-Brake-Ma ... 6f&vxp=mtr

comes in diff colors, black, gold etc
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/St-Rear-Brake-Ma ... c1&vxp=mtr

Item location: China
High quality Rear Brake pump

You are view on 1 completed set of rear brake/pump brake master cylinder.Comes with oil-lined and fluid oil reservior.

Quantity: 1 PC
Condition: 100% Brand New
Easy Installation: motorcycle OME modification

Color: Red

westgl » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:55 am[/url]":2x3dxn0d]
How can they sell that for only $15 bucks???? that is like giving it away, how could they make any money?

Count me In

82a » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:12 pm[/url]":2x3dxn0d]
these go for 15 bucks brand new, should also work modding it like the gl18 m\c

bottom line is lotsa good used originals out there, same part was widely used and can be easily modded (via a bracket) to fit, just like the gl18

Fitment: Honda
NSR250 All year
VFR400 88-92
RFV 400 All year
VTR250 All year
CB250 All year
CB400 All year
CB600 03-12
CB900 92 UP
CBR250 88-12
CBR400 84 UP
CBR600 03-12
CBR1000 04-12